congressional picnic and folks are coming up and taking pictures with their family, i promise you, michelle and i are very nice to them and we have a wonderful time. but it doesn't prevent them from going on to the floor of the house and blasting me for being a big-spending socialist. >> bill: that kind of goes with the territory. >> yeah. i think every president has to deal with that. >> bill: yeah. there are those. but people tend to be nice. civil. somebody asked me the other day like when i get recognized out shopping or restaurants or kind of whatever, how many people really come up to me and say i hate your guts? and it is almost nobody ever does. there are a lot of people that hate my guts but the people that come up usually just say hi, how are you? nice to see you. enjoy your program or love your work or whatever. >> you realize you just opened up pandora's box. because the next time you get seen -- >> bill: to me, it convinces me most people are chicken because i get all of the hate mail. but -- and i know that maybe what it is the people who really hate me, when they see me, they